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june


IP: 61.10.7.150

Apr 14th, 2004 - 8:52 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Woodstock you just don't know how much you made me happy reading a part of the book of Anita' A Heart of Modern Woman....Her Self Revelation......a million thanks to you and to snoopy for maintaining this wonderful website for all of Anita's fans who cannot read or write chinese characters....Anita is TRULY A HERO IN MODERN TIMES!!!!!!!! AND IS WORTH EMULATING!!!!!!!!!!!
AL-(adeline teh)


IP: 219.95.200.46

Apr 15th, 2004 - 2:07 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

i am searching this book ,where did u brought it
dana


IP: 61.6.170.27

Apr 15th, 2004 - 2:08 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

June, do you still cry when reading up on Anita? Can still remember her final words in her last concert, THE SUNSET IS INFINITELY FINE BUT DUSK IS NEAR. Miss her so much. need to cry...
june


IP: 203.168.166.150

Apr 15th, 2004 - 6:49 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

hi Dana...yes i do cry and i cry often......it's so funny cause i have around 6 recorded vhs tapes here from the tributes of tvb, atv and the ones from i-cable though it always made me cry watching them but i see to it that everyday i can at least view any of them, listen to her music and surf the internet and to know and to learn more about her and watched her movies.......i just can't get enough of her until now, others may call me fanatic but i don't care cause doing these simple things really made my day! i looked up to Anita and made her as my model cause she is truly GREAT!!!!!!!!
Woodstock


IP: 218.102.182.40

Apr 15th, 2004 - 8:18 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

All of you are welcome. This is the least we can do for her in return. Though she is not around any longer, both Snoopy and I still wish people will know her better. She is just too good a person. A role model for us all.

It is a great book. Gradually I would translate her conversation with her friends, that will give you a better insight of her towards many other things of this life.

All I can say is good dies young. Just remember the message she gave us at the press conference of signing contract with MBS. When she talked about her own sorrow over Gor Gor's demise, she said she told herself "No use to cry, he would not come back, I have to live on properly." At that time she already knew she was dying, so this message was actually for us.

Hope all of you remember what she said, and live happily and take care of your health!
june


IP: 203.168.166.150

Apr 15th, 2004 - 10:09 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Well I guess Woodstock you are right, that message was meant for us....so we might as well live our life to the fullest like what she did, do good deeds and be righteous in everything that we do...tough act to follow, but if we focus and think of what we want to achieve and where we want to be at the end of our life, that is to the LAND OF NIRVANA....then nothing is impossible.....ANITA HAS MADE IT!!!!!! So I guess, WE CAN TOO..........
Looking forward for your future translation of the other chapter of Anita's book...
dana


IP: 61.6.110.69

Apr 15th, 2004 - 8:02 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Alright! Alright! point taken. Huge GRIN for Woodstock. Sometimes just cant help it. Nothing dramatic though.
As you say June, we will live life to the fullest and be merry, doing what needs to be done.
June, we seem to have something in common though. I need to watch/listen to Anita's CDs/Vcds everyday. I like the feeling that she is always beside me but those around me thinks that Im getting crazy.
Take good care of those VHS recordings of Anita or maybe you should convert them into Cds/Vcds because those VHS may get mouldy in future.
Anticipating for your next translation of the book, Woodstock. Take care and thank you for your reminder.
june


IP: 203.168.166.150

Apr 16th, 2004 - 6:52 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hi Dana!!! Yes, actually i'm really planning to have it convert to VCD, thanks for your advice though....I'm sure there are other plenty out there who are just like us......and just like you my cries are not dramatic too......it's just like.....well, so hard to explain......anyway, i guess we all know the feeling........
dana


IP: 61.6.110.236

Apr 17th, 2004 - 2:25 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Im sorry June if my earlier actions made you sad again. You are right about those feelings, June. It is unexplainable. No matter how a person denied ever crying over Anita's death Im certained those eyes could have been mirrored with tears. Goodness! are we going over that stuff again. Wouldnt want to upset Woodstock for his/her[care to clarify, Woodstock?] sincere advice.
So far having read up that Anita had a lot of friends, good friends, close friends, has she ever had a really true friend whom she can totally confide in excluding guys? Sometimes there are feminine issues that cant be discuss with the opposite sex. I was thinking that if she had, she could still be alive..well..just my assumption.
Woodstock


IP: 219.77.84.232

Apr 18th, 2004 - 2:40 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

As long as not dramatic, not hurting your health, okay lar. I myself actually often with tears swelled up when I read articles about her, just can't help. Also I wonder why those should die but never die. On the other hand those should not die but often die so early. Answer: FATE!

Dana: I understand what you are talking about. I and my friends could not help asking the same question too. I came to an answer, that is only my own assumption, Mui just didn't like to worry all her friends, she'd rather keep all her troubles to herself, that was what she normally did. If not because the paparazzi chased after her to the hospital, I bet she would choose to keep the whole thing to herself and a few friends around her till the last minute.
june


IP: 203.168.166.150

Apr 18th, 2004 - 4:26 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

No, Dana it's okey.....actually i was re-reading the article from the Buddhist Compassion, that made my eyes swell again with tears....I'm so glad we have this website wherein we are able to express our true feelings for Anita without having to fear of people not understanding or even rejection.....
dana


IP: 61.6.171.203

Apr 18th, 2004 - 8:35 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Cheer up! June. We still have a lot of reading coming up.[remember those interviews of Anita?]

, Guess youre right, Woodstock. Poor Anita, forever so thoughtful of those around her which should be her biggest weakness. In the past, she has always mentioned about her unhappy childhood which could have attributed to it. Come to think of it, the Ma should have a guilty conscience in letting a 5yr. old to perform day and night in order to support the family. Thank goodness! Anita got her luckiest break in1982.

Hey! second chapter of the book.
Anita and Michelle Yeoh, an ideal pair as both interest is dancing. Hmm.. one is classy, elegant and attractive and the other is sweet, gentle and beautiful. Adored them in 'Heroic Trio' & 'The Excecutioners', but preferrably 'Heroic Trio'. Too bad they only partnered in these two movies. Love the 2 songs performed by Anita. Anyone know the english name for the theme song?
Thanks! for the translation, Woodstock. Next chapter, please?[[Haha] just kidding..take your time.]
Woodstock


IP: 219.76.64.3

Apr 19th, 2004 - 8:18 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dana:

If Mui Ma was able to have some quilty conscience, then she would not let Mui work so young to support the family lar. But we can try to look at the whole thing from a different angle, then we might feel better. Mui was just too talented at that time so Mui Ma just didn't want to waste her talent, also the rest of the family (except Ann Mui) had no skill to make any money. Besides if Mui didn't aquire so much practical stage experience, she migh not be able to develop such an unique stage style and charisma; if she didn't have such a sad childhood and youth, she might not be able to sing with so much feeling that all other singers lack; if she didn't have such a bitter life experience, she would not become a philantropist and a caring person as she was, because only with her own experience she could understand better the less fortunate. So in a way, her deprived days of childhood actually made her a tougher person and a better person.

I often tell myself, Heaven is fair to everyone of us. We might have this, then might not have that. So just have to be contented with whatever we have. Everything is destined. So should have no regret and just treasure our life, people and things around us and be happy!

You meant she had a break in 1992, not 1982, right?

hahahaha.......kept on reminding me about those interviews and the book. Do you know a Chinese proverb, "long life job, long life do!" ? If you understand this, then you would know how I will handle this project lar

BTW, the theme song for [Heroic Trio] is "Don't ask this life", one of my favourites.
dana


IP: 61.6.170.217

Apr 20th, 2004 - 6:09 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Never expect your next chapter of translation so fast, Woodstock. Thank you. Btw, will these recorded interviews be release to the public?

Hey.. a very impressive logical theory which is totally acceptable but I disagree about the part that the rest of the family[except Ann] having no skills to make money. By right, Anita's 2 brothers should be around their early twenties. Im sure they could get a job easily and provide something for the family. A decent job doesnt need any skills. Well?

Yea, the break was in 1982 when Anita won the singing competion held by TVB.

'long life job, long life do' - - of course I know what it means and I have one for you too. 'beat the iron rod, when it is still hot'. Hows it? Please dont laugh if Im wrong or Ill have to make myself disappear.[too embarassed] Actually, I dont really understand the usage of it, learnt it from those chinese dramas. I know Im a tiny bit pushy about the translations but I do know you have a strong sense of humour which I always admire in a person.

Thanks for telling me the english name of that song. Could you convert the lyrics into english? I love this song and would like to sing along. Since it is one of your favourite, I know youll enjoy doing it. Please..please..please..PLEASE? Im crossing my fingers, Woodstock!
Sheila


IP: 208.185.156.233

Apr 20th, 2004 - 8:20 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hi Woodstock, I sincerely want to thank you very much for translating all the articles on Anita Mui. I appreciate it and I am also grateful to you. I speak Cantonese very well but I cannot read Chinese and I live in the United States. I love and respect Anita very much and I grew up listening to her music and watching her movies.
Woodstock


IP: 218.103.248.236

Apr 20th, 2004 - 6:44 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Sheila, No need "thanks', you are most welcome, and it is my pleasure to do a little "something" for our beloved Mui Jei!

Dana: agree with your disagreement "no skill to make money....". In 60s, all industries in HK started soar, many housewives took plastic flowers to home to assemble or textile items to work. But could not bring big money. I heard Mui Ma mentioned somewhere, all of them had to work, as hawkers and etc. 2 boys worked too, the oldest one helped in the singing group of Mui Ma, the 2nd one went to learn cooking (don't know exactly when), but he is a chef now. Mui mentioned about that before.

Actually it was really not easy to bring up 4 children all by herself. But let a 4 year girl working and be the main bread earner was really too cruel. However, Mui must be too talented, otherwise how could a 4 year girl be able to handle all the preformance. Many of them even haven't succeeded in toilet training. Right? I'm not defending for Mui Ma, but just analyse everything objectively.

Actually Mui can be a very good teaching materail. No matter what kind of childhood Mui had, she by her own hard work and her goal, became a prominent and successful artist, contributed more to the society than many of us who have had a good education and from a better off family. On the other hand, her eldest brother, from the same kind of background, what he became? All of you can see by yourself.

As long as we have a goal, pinpoint the direction and try hard with persistence, with a firm faith. We will be able to achieve it. Mui mentioned to us about this in her last concert too.

'beat the iron rod, when it is still hot'.... ...well said.......but I will stick to my 'long life job, long life do'.

Tried to lure me to do the translation of the lyric? Do you know I never know the lyric of any songs? even my favourite. I only listen to the melody and Mui's voice .......will try to do it, when I have time.
rowena


IP: 202.69.180.87

Apr 21st, 2004 - 6:04 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

dana and woodstock: here is a translation of heroic trio sang by mui jei.. i like it too but i like woman's heart more(the other song mui sang in HT)..

Don't Ask One's Life

with whom with whom
we meet we go through hard times
with feeling with passion
we pass stop by stop in our life
with you with me
the changes show the romance
with nights with days
the harshness shines our dreams
every event happens only at a flash moment
every moment is nothing special then becomes a legend

don't ask yesterday
my happiness my sadness
I'm with myself, struggling for my way
don't ask today
to heaven to earth
I'm still myself, stepping my feet
into this complicated world
don't ask tomorrow
is there anyone we just look like
we face the universe and laugh loud with our pride

don't ask one's life
who will be with me together
we won't walk alone anymore

take care all!
dana


IP: 61.6.110.27

Apr 21st, 2004 - 7:56 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Thank you rowena! Thats very nice of you. I love it. Ill print it out immediately. Your favourite is 'Woman's Heart'? I like that too. Do you think you can translate that for me? Please?

Laughing with me and not laughing at me, I presumed, Woodstock?
Seriously, Woodstock, I find your definitions of HOW and WHAT moulded Anita to be what she had become is very touching. Your thorough explanatory theories indeed give me a better understanding of WHO ANITA MUI REALLY IS and why she is so special.{ think Im gonna cry again}
Sorry..in addition to it, you have also given us loads of educational and healthy advice, all of us are very grateful to you for your effort and the time spent. Thank you! Woodstock and not to forget your silent but prominent partner, Hi! Snoopy. Thank you for accomodating us.
There's one nagging question which is always on my mind. When everything quiet down and Anita is alone by herself, is she a happy person? I dont want an opinion. Give me a direct answer, Woodstock.
Woodstock, what do you think of her love-life? If its a too personal and sensitive subject, just forget I mentioned it, ok?

Aww..come on, am I really that cunning?[maybe I am Rowena has given me the translation but I still need you to convert the lyrics as the same rhyme as in the song. Could you? Just take your time..Ill w..a..i..t
The word 'WAIT' suddenly seems so important and dreadful.
For the first time in my life, I find it amusing for someone as you, a music lover, listening to songs without knowing the lyrics.
dana


IP: 61.6.110.27

Apr 21st, 2004 - 8:14 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hey! Woodstock, I was busy typing, didnt notice your 4th chapter of translation. getting faster..quite an improvement keep it up!
rowena


IP: 202.69.180.75

Apr 21st, 2004 - 9:55 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

hi!

glad to be of help! dana i thought translate it in english (i didn't translate it by myself it was translated in michelle yeoh's site. actually i cnt read or understand chinese but i love listening to mui's song even if i didn't know what it meant.. i jaz love her voice and the melody of the song.).. u mean, in canto pinyin? i do have a translated lyrics for woman's heart (nui yan sam) i begged a co-michelle fan to translate it in canto for me so i can sing with mui.. she was very kind to do so.. actually i memorized it for a week. hehe.. woman's heart is the song played when wonder woman (mui) saved the baby and brought it to the hospital.. don't ask one's life song was played at the start and end of the movie heroic trio... NUI YAN SAM (woman's heart is one of my fave among mui's songs).. here it is:

NUI YAN SAM (woman's heart)

Verse 1:

hon juik gyan chin yan jin san
yi zhoi na hin wah guo hao
zhi yao fat yin kuin tao dek
si ngo dek yat dui sao
nuo lik heung qin shui mut yao
shui liu kei seik dek jik hao
shi you ba dik guan gyan liu zhoi lau

Chorus:

shui zhi yun tuk lap yu tin dei
tong liu ya yong yan hon
nei ngo kiok shui yeu
zhoi yan qin bei yong mong
lin zhuo mong yik mei ngam seong jiong
ngo ui zhe yong ngan long
dan shi yao zham ho
shi nei wa ngo sat mong

Verse 2:

hon jiuk ngan qin yan shui liu
ho hang *** duo jip kan
dang liu duo nin zhe guk siek
zoe nei dek nui yan
ngo mut yao kuin loi leng nei
sheng sao tai duo dek cheng gam
dan ngo chi zong pat guo shi guo yan

Repeat chorus

repeat verse 2
repeat last verse

in english this is what it meant)

Woman's Heart (nui yan sam)

everyone is gone
everything is quiet down
what's left are only my tired hands
we all try our best
but no one knows when I rest
it's the time to shed my suppressed tears

who likes to stand out all the time
even when I want to cry
I'm still in front of the crowd
not even in my dream
I'd be so strong and firm
but how can I disappoint you and me

~ . ~ . ~ . ~

watching you sleep sweetly
everything's filled with happiness
I've waited for many years to be your woman
I wish not to burden you
with so much feelings
but I myself am only a human being

who likes to stand out all the time
even when I want to cry
I'm still in front of the crowd
not even in my dream
I'd be so strong and firm
but how can I disappoint you and me

mahal kita ah mui!
june


IP: 61.10.7.150

Apr 21st, 2004 - 11:01 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Rowena thanks for supplying the Woman's Heart in Chinese pinyin....i've been collecting her songs with pinyin so that i could sing along too.....what a beautiful song........I hope Woodstock could supply for the other song from the Heroic Trio too......and thank you in advance........
Hi Dana!
rowena


IP: 202.69.180.48

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 3:01 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

ur very much welcome june! that's one of the things i can do for a co-fan.. to share what i have!..

wish i could understand chinese so i can translate the songs of ah mui but i cnt.. *sigh*

btw, anyone here have a copy of the book 'heart of the modern woman'? how much and where to find it? is it available in chinatown? i doubt manila chinatown has it.. sigh! i wanted to have a copy of it but it'll be hard for me.. :'(
Leelee


IP: 195.243.11.13

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 3:29 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Thank you Woodstock for the translations. e interviews help us to understand Mui more. Michele's part showed me wht a great/fun friend/company Mui was to hang out w, Sammy's part showed me how experienced & authoritative Mui was as an actress/person & Kelly's part... is simply wonderful & true, it showed me Mui's humility & courteousness (fr her praises for Kelly & Josephine), intelligence (in e way she saw things) & again authority; e way Mui spoke... I can't describe, try listening to Michele Reis & u'll know (e difference).

I want to get e book, is there any English website for ordering? It's not sold in M'sia, wonder if it's sold China...
dana


IP: 61.6.110.23

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 5:13 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hey! That was fast, Rowena. Thank you! Hi!June, glad youre back.
Knowing the meaning of these 2 songs means a lot to me. And thanks for the bonus i.e. the converted lyrics of 'Woman's Heart'. I can now enjoy singing along with Anita. Keeping my fingers crossed for Woodstock's version of 'Dont Ask This Life'. Yesterday, I was too excited to notice. Which one is correct? 'Dont Ask This Life'/'Dont Ask One's Life? Woodstock? Rowena?

Woodstock, if my questions are too disturbing, please ignore it, ok? Knowing every detail of Anita means a lot to me but your well-being is my greatest concern too.
Woodstock


IP: 219.77.94.92

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 5:38 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Rowena: thanks for the help, but I’m afraid you have already dragged yourself to trouble, because we have some very greedy readers here………hahahahaha…….I like Woman Heart too…….actually I like best all her songs which she sang with power and deep feeling…….such as Faithfully, What Day, Autumn and Autumn and etc.

Dana: I’m laughing AT you……hahahaha…….after I read Rowena’s translation, and before your reply of last night, I already suspected that you would ask Rowena for the translation of Woman Heart…………….hahahaha

Not my opinion, but a direct answer? I’m not her, how could I answer? Also all depends on how you define “happiness”. But I will try to answer in my own way, otherwise all those devoted fans who followed her more than 20 years might come reprimanding me what right I have… hahahahaha ……..If you have chance to go through her interviews, I remember she was asked this question too. She never gave a direct answer. She mentioned something like happiness in this world can’t be carried even to next moment, that is her Buddhism theory. But she never said she was unhappy, so in other words, I would say she was happy....

Actually when you grow older or up to a certain age, you would not be easily turned on or brought to ecstasy or excitement thatis generally accepted as bing happy. and such "happines" teenagers or people of 20s often experience (how soon a person reaches that state all depends on one’s character and life experience), So if a more mature person is in a stable state of content and serenity with a sense of fulfillment, then that person can actually be described as happy. Therefore I would say Mui was happy. Even during her last period, despite the physical pains and suffering she had gone through, she was not unhappy, because she accepted the fate with bravery and without regret, planned her remaining days according to her wish and lived her counted days to fullest with dignity.

Her love-life, of course was glamorous and colorful, even though not fruitful. She was true and serious about every love affair she went through, and loved the other party with her whole heart. The only regret is that she could not find a compatible one. This is what I implied previously that you might have this, but might not have that. She had all the glory of her career, but she was never able to have a family of her own. Imagine if she didn’t join the New Singers Contest, then there might be an entirely different chapter of her life, she might be a little wife of some man, and a devoted mother of a few children, and might be still alive. But then, we would not have our Anita Mui. So everything is fate. Right?

My way of listening songs, amusing?…………hahahaha……..not really that funny, just like Kwai Lor, Kwai Po listening to Chinese songs ma……I was too busy, no time to sit back to listen to songs. So normally I did several things at one time. Gradually this became my habit………..hahahaha

Ping-yin for the other song, I will ask another fan to do it. So keep your fingers crossed.
Angel


IP: 81.164.240.156

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 7:45 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dear Woodstock, I really like the message that you wrote, I don't know how to explain to you but maybe because you can always tell us so many things from Mui Jei and teach us so many possitive things. From the bottom of my heart, I thank you so much !
Sheila


IP: 208.185.156.233

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 8:12 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dear Woodstock, I agreed with Angel. I also sincerely thank you for the bottom of my heart. Your message and insights about Mei Jei really teaches us to be kind and accept fate. We must do our best to give and cherish our love ones like Mei Jei.
rowena


IP: 202.69.180.76

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 8:13 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

dana: it seems fast bcoz those lyrics was already in my pc so i just copy and paste it here.. i have them 3months ago.. hehe

about 'Don't ask "one's" life'? as i've said i only got it from michelle yeoh site and the title is it. that's what i know.. how bout u woodstock? i think u need to explain ur side to dana.. hehehe..

woodstock: ur welcome! glad to help.. am i in trouble? oh no! i shud hide from those greedy readers.. thanks for the warning! haha.. jaz kidding! if i'll be in trouble, i'll turn it over to no one but YOU! hahaha... kidding again.. seriously, it's ok as long as i know what they're asking.. it's my pleasure to help!

take care all!
june


IP: 203.168.166.150

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 9:37 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Woodstock: I, third demotion (from Angel and Sheila), you always HIT it right to the very meaning....without having to roam around the bush...if I may ask, how long have you been an ANITA follower? Cause it seems to me you know everything about her....her thoughts and her feelings.....thanks for always giving us your insight about many things, the more you share, the better we understand and LOVE ANITA MORE DEARLY.......no kidding....I guess I became more addicted to her because of you.... ....so from the bottom of our VERY HEART........THANK YOU, and thanks to SNOOPY TOO for this WONDERFUL WEBSITE!!!!!!!AND MORE POWER!!!!!!

Dana: Actually I never left, I've been visiting this website almost every 2 to 3 hours...it's just that my attention has been divided into 2: 1. Reading news/articles and visting this forum and no. 2. Casting my votes to our beloved ANITA, in fact i've been having sleepless nights lately just to cast votes cause I couldn't stand to see the second in line to rule first....our votes will just go to waste if that happens.......I almost, always find it difficult to cast, whereas the second in line can just easily add on votes in minutes....I wonder why? But anyway, I do hope we could all join together and vote 4 to 5 times daily.......it works! Let's just sacrifice anyway 2 more months to go and it's over.........

Jason


IP: 219.95.202.34

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 10:51 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hey, this topic about modern woman. No wonder all of you here are modern women discussing on modern woman's thought and life. I can see from a very positive angle your discussion on Anita as a modern woman, has brought a positive meaning to fans here. I'm glad to be 'listener' here. Many thanks to all for sharing.
Sheila


IP: 208.185.156.233

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 12:54 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Thank you, June I would not have say it better.
Woodstock, thank you for devoting your time to inform and share with the people that continue to love Mei Jei. Like June, I am addicted to Anita. She is a beautiful individual inside and out.
Thank you, Woodstock and Snoopy for being very special people who is willing to give and share from the heart.
Angel


IP: 81.164.254.39

Apr 22nd, 2004 - 4:42 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dear Woodstock, I have the same feeling like June too, because of you, I love Mui Jei each day more and more. And of course I MUST thank Snoopy here again, Snoopy is working so hard for keeping up this website.
Woodstock and Snoopy, your kindness and love for all the fans, is just a treasure for everyone !
dana


IP: 61.6.170.208

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 1:15 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Goodness me! This thread is suddenly flooded with compliments for our very own Superstars: Woodstock/Snoopy
What a relief to see you again, Woodstock. Thought you were burnt out with my insatiable questions.

Laughing AT me, eh? Am I so predictable? Maybe I should address you as Psychic Queen, eh? Yea, my greediness is only confined to anything that has the word Anita Mui.

Why do I want a direct answer? Because I need to get the answer straight from you before reading up your opinion which is supposed to be my next question. Thats true, you cant give an answer on behalf of Anita. But youve read up more about her, met her? and more /less you would have summoned up an appropriate answer.
As you mentioned about her 'not giving a direct answer' in that interview and that 'happiness in this world........to next moment'. I was thinking that she could be telling us that her happiness is only short-lived. She did have the bravery and dignity till her remaining days. But the smiles, the laughter during the last few months, is it possible that she did it for the benefit of her fans and friends? As we all know of her devotions for them. Am I making any sense here? Her happiness is my main concern.

Why did she step down in 1991 and has she ever regretted returning to the music scene? Could you elaborate on this, Woodstock?

Yea, too bad her love-life didnt work out for her but then as you said, we wont have our Anita Mui. Fate certaintly controls and decide everything for each individual.

hmm..hinting that youre a very busy person? Well.. we are still waiting..p...a...t...i...e...n...t...l...y...
Hey! Woodstock for once try to sit back, play one of your favourite song and really listen to it. Let your mind absorb the music as well as the lyrics and youll notice a great difference.


Doesnt matter where you obtained the translation, rowena but your admission shows how truthful and honest person you are. Your caring and sharing attitude is a good example for us readers.


June, you must be practically breathing and sitting at your computer for 24hrs. Wow! such loyalty to Anita. Dont worry about that voting site, we are all doing our best, ok?
rowena


IP: 202.69.180.61

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 3:08 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

dana: thanks! as i've said it's my pleasure to help and share what i have.. as mui jei said be generous! i always keep that in mind.

take care all!
Woodstock


IP: 218.102.183.74

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 6:04 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

I have to thank you all for accepting my view about Mui. Actually the purpose for setting up this website is to share, and for promoting Mui Spirit. Long before anybody was talking about Mui Spirit, we already made it headline in the index page. So I hope all of us will learn something from Mui Jei, she has a wonderful personality, she has a Big Heart and a true Buddhist.

Dana: before my long "lecture", I would like to tell you I like the new "smilies" you've been using lately. Actually I like some of the similies left by one other fan under the other thread too

I don’t agree to your assumption on “that she could be telling us that HER happiness is only short-lived”. If so, that must be the material happiness that is entirely different happiness as I mentioned in the last message, that is more a state of mind.

When Mui mentioned about “happiness can’t be carried to next moment” , she was referring to suffering of human life. Now have to quote material from Buddhism teaching in order to explain it clearly: “the Buddha explained that existence is suffering, that this suffering takes various forms and that even material happiness, health and good fortune carry within them the seeds of suffering. Such happiness cannot be maintained as sickness, old age and death are inevitable. It is very rare for any of us to go through the day without experiencing some form of suffering. The general unsatisfactoriness, frustration that we often feel are also suffering. “ .

So happiness of today can’t last till tomorrow, because we will face some other from of suffering.

But when Mui has seen thoroughly through life and already fully aware of this Truth of Buddhism, she, by continuous practices and meditation, might have already free herself from suffering - achieved ultimate happiness (though beyond what we might ordinarily conceive as happiness).

“How is it that Buddhists might find happiness in a world that they know is full of change, uncertainty, unsatisfactoriness? Even when happiness is possible, there is no escape from old age, sickness and death. What Buddhism does teach is that there are skilful ways of living. These include, following certain moral precepts and working on various meditation techniques that are conducive to well-being....

“Also the scientists said that Buddhists who practice meditation on a regular basis are happier than others! Study by scientists at the University of California claims that the practice of Buddhist meditation makes individuals able to deal with fear and anger much better. Meditation can have several functions. It is about calming the mind but it is also about freeing oneself from habitual states of greed, hatred and delusion. Each of these is a source of suffering and therefore unhappiness.”

Finally, one message from Buddhism is the deep truth that one finds happiness by seeking the happiness of others. That Mui was continuously practicing. Therefore, Dana, I can assure you that Mui was happy, not in material sense, but spiritually. She was a true Buddhist, she prayed ] and meditated everyday, and followed the teaching of Buddhism in her everyday life and in her thinking.

Even by her look, you should have noticed the change in her face in recent 10 years, you can see the kindness, the peace and the beauty that radiated from deep down inside.

She stepped down from stage in 1991, because she wanted to get married and started her family. But of course it didn’t work out. Whether she regretted returning to the stage again, I think we had to take her words, as she always told us she never regretted for anything she did, and she would be responsible for everything she did. However, I feel she was not happy at that time, something troubled her badly. (I don't like to elaborate here, as she never mentioned that herself. But you can guess.) Do you remember she mentioned that in the article of Buddhist Compassion? After she turned to be a Buddhist under the teaching of Shamar Rinpoche, she got all mental troubles solved and retained inner tranquility.

Though I often say fate decides everything, I hope I don’t mislead people. In fact we can control our life, as we can decide what we want to be and how we can achieve our goals etc. But there is something in this life really seems to be predetermined, e.g. birth, what kind of family we were bron to, how and when we die.

Listen to the lyrics? If just listen, but not try to understand really doesn’t mean anything. However, if you listen to the music and try to feel the feeling of the singer, the echo is even greater. Try it!
dana


IP: 161.142.106.38

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 7:04 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Woodstock, I need your help. I need to read the Buddhist Compassion but I cant find it. Please?
dana


IP: 161.142.106.127

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 8:22 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Its okay, Woodstock, Ive got it from another source. Thanks anyway!
Woodstock


IP: 218.103.204.247

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 5:35 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dana:

From the index page, get into the section about media & etc about the demise, funeral, then get to the "Memorial Magazines" section, you will find Buddist Compassion 116.
dana


IP: 61.6.171.192

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 8:40 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Thank you for helping me out, Woodstock. That is the one section that I need to avoid. I know I cant control my tears going through all the news again of her demise. But for the sake of clearing up something which I have started I had to. Please give me some time to get back to you and well continue where we left off.
june


IP: 203.168.166.150

Apr 23rd, 2004 - 11:11 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hi Dana! You bet....and thank you, I know all of us wants MUI JEI to lead, cause if she's still alive right now, she would Love to lead....cause she's born to be one.....my heart is heavy right now after reading Woodstock's translation of the the one Jason posted.....but I'm okey, it's just that I really miss her so much and how I long to be able to turn back the hands of time and show to her that many, many of us fans LOVE HER AND SUPPORT HER!!!!!!! ALL THE WAY!
june


IP: 61.10.7.150

Apr 24th, 2004 - 9:46 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

And also I'd like to add, this is the least that I can do for Anita...just to let her know how much I appreciate her being a beautiful person, inside and out....
dana


IP: 61.6.170.51

Apr 25th, 2004 - 12:52 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hi! June you are welcome!. June, Anita is The Supreme Being. She doesnt need that voting site to prove it. Anyway, you have my full support. Do take care of yourself.

Thank you for your patience, Woodstock. My daily routine is attending lectures and more lectures. But this is the only 'lecture' I will never ever forget.
For the past day, Ive read up the Buddhist Compassion provided in this site and the one provided by a friend of mine. It made me realized how little knowledge I have concerning Buddhism.
Comparing what Ive read to what you have explained in both messages, Woodstock, only then do I get a total understanding of it.[mind you, Im a slow learner in something that is not in my syllabus]
Here are a few quotes, I like to share with all readers.

*True Compassion has the power to root out the cause of misery in people's lives and direct them to the cause of happiness.

*Such Compassion by its very nature requires courage and strength. Persistence and determination gives rise to wisdom with which we can move thing in a positive direction.

*Buddhism encourages us to step confidently into a world & society entwined with joys and sufferings and to develop a condition of life to fully enjoy all we encounter.

*The purpose and goal of daily Buddhist prayer and practice is to create such an inner world of profound enjoyment and ease.

These are the main facts from Woodstock.
[She prayed and meditated everyday and followed the teaching of Buddhism in her everyday life and in her thinking.]
[Anita has those qualities- courage, strength, persistence and determination - provided by Woodstock from all previous messages]
[Finally, one message from Buddhism is the deep truth that one finds happiness by seeking the happiness of others that Mui was continuously practicing.]

I have no more doubts, Woodstock. Anita has indeed found her true happiness and also the happiness she bestowed on her fans, friends and having it back in return. Im so happy for her. Those tears that I shed when I was in that section was worth it but after reading and understanding everything thoroughly I felt peaceful and dont feel the urge to cry anymore. Strange isnt it? I lingered longer admiring all her pictures and magazine covers, in fact everything about her. Anita is indeed a wonderful and special shining Star.
You are a wonderful person too. Thank you for your special guidance and for your tolerance in me. I know I do drive you up the wall, Woodstock, I sincerely apologize to you.

Love the 'smilies', eh?[so you should know what to do,
I dont get it, Woodstock, if that is so why do they take so much trouble in writing those lyrics. When you really pay full attention to the song everything should be in there. How do a singer sing when theres nothing to produce vocally? Those lyrics help them to give out those feelings.
dana


IP: 61.6.170.51

Apr 25th, 2004 - 12:57 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Btw, Woodstock, I did see your 5th Chapter of translation. Thanks again. I must say Jacky Cheung is the most happiest and luckiest person on the world to have such an understanding and loving wife. But most of all is having Anita as his dearest friend and as one of the family.
Hey! Woodstock, why did Anita prefer David to call her Anita? Did she like people to address her as 'Mui Jei'? I like to call her Anita not because I dont respect her but 'MuiJei' sounds so old when in fact she is not even in that category.
Kelly


IP: 203.166.63.165

Apr 25th, 2004 - 3:32 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

I wonder which chapter has Andy Lau in it??... THanx Woodstock 4 all the translations..
Woodstock


IP: 218.103.249.218

Apr 25th, 2004 - 6:36 PM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dana:

You never really drove me up the wall. On the contrary your questions only made me read more about Buddhism, in the end I understand Mui better. Actually when we first heard all the things, that she talked about in her past interviews, seemed so abstract, it was because we didn’t know all her thinking , her selfless deed, or her life philosophy were based on Buddhism teaching. Now finally I understand many things she said and did.

Also thanks for the quotes. You are not a slow learner but a serious learner. I like that!

I’m glad you don’t cry that much anymore. I convinced myself that she already arrived at land of Nirvana after I read the Buddhist Compassion. Also I believed it was a release for her from the physical pain of her sickness, pressure from her work. It is really not easy for a woman to survive. also to maintain a prominent status of super star and Big Sister in the complicated entertainment circle for more than 20 years. Also all by herself. She was really too tired and needs a rest.

Mui actually likes people to call her Anita. People, no matter older or younger than her, like to call her Mui Jei since she was very young, because they respect her. She doesn’t like David Tao to call her Mei Jei, maybe she respected David for his talent, she thought they are at equal status in term of talent. Also I think she didn’t like David to sound so distant. Remember they actually planned to work together for her next album. When you work together for music, rapport, harmony and mutual understanding are really very important. It is a regret to all music lovers, such an album never created, because I believe it would definitely be a very good one.

Actually according to past media writing, David Tao was introduced to Mui when she was eating in Mandarin in Singapore by his concert organiser or manager, not fixed meeting though. She was asked to support him as he was going to have the concert in HK. So Mui gave her full support by bringing a whole bunch of singers to his concert, and jumped onto stage to dance while he was singing, that brought the concert to the climax, brought him to the attention of HK people. Then his "Angel", again brought him to the peak of his career because of Mui. Though his talent sooner or later will bring him to the peak, without Mui's help and support, it might not have come so soon. Anyway, this shows again how Mui got very sharp sensitivity of muisic market.

BTW, will take your advice, to sit back to listen to the lyrics when have time.

June: I dare not say I know Mui so well. I only try to understand her as much as I can. Though she is a super star, she is a human being just like us, with blood and flesh. So if we can analyze her thinking careful just like a normal human being, and with the help of Buddhism teachings that she has incorporated into her thinking and everyday life, we can really understand her better. I’m not a Buddhist, and I don’t intend to preach Buddhism here, but in order to understand Mui better, I have to read more about Buddhism. Guess Dana will agree with me here.

I'm not a super fan either, very junior in term of seniority. But I do love her songs, her performance, her character, in short Anita Mui as a person.

Kelly: you are most welcome. Andy Lau didn’t have a conversation session with Mui this time, so he was not in the Book.
dana


IP: 61.6.171.201

Apr 26th, 2004 - 7:34 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Thanks! for the 6th Chapter of translation, Woodstock. For a change, I really like to see those Kyoto pictures of Anita. She looked so pretty and lovely on the cover of 'Heart Of Modern Woman' book. Thinking of which, did you notice that during her younger years, she wasnt that pretty but gradually as the years passed by, she looked more and more pretty and radiant too? Another thing I noticed is that all the guys around her have one thing in common, good looks and a muscular physique. What a pity! What she had said is really true that when a woman is too successful and good, no man would dare to approach her. My aunt is an example of it. I supposed men are egoistic.
As in your 3rd paragraph, I understand and can imagine how tough it is for Anita to handle domestic issues as well as her professional duties, not to mention the preparation & frustration she had to face daily and single-handedly. Just exactly like her song 'Woman's Heart'.
Without your admission, you gave me the impression that you are a Buddhist. Maybe because of the way you talk about Buddhism. I think no matter what religion we believe in, it is advisable to learn and know more about each of the religion cultivated globally.
Honestly, I ought to thank you, Woodstock for helping me into that section 'demise, memorial etc' which I always bypassed. With the help of the Buddhist Compassion 116 it gives me the courage to face reality, being able to overcome the loss of beloved Anita, knowing that she is now perfectly safe in the hands of her God and in the land of everlasting happiness.
You used the word 'convinced'. Are you still in denial? I hope in time to come you would be able to accept and overcome the uncertainty.
Im not surprised that Anita had a sharp sensivity of the music market because music is her life. You are right about their partnership of that 'would-be' album which will definitely bring us to another dimension of the music world.
Angel


IP: 81.164.255.120

Apr 26th, 2004 - 8:00 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Thanks a lot Woodstock, even I said it so many times, but I really didn't expect that you will translate so many pages of this book, I remember when you translated the first page, I was already so happy and I really feel so touched about the words from Mui Jei...
I find also it's a pity that David Tao couldn't work with Mui Jei together for the new album, David Tao said in one of his interviews, he was too busy, that's why delay...
Life is full with unexpected, we should treasure everyone and everything around us, even this forum I need to treasure, I may not forget, without Snoopy and you, at this moment, I can not write this, really, thanks for all the effort and time and patience and understanding.
AT


IP: 68.126.124.2

Apr 27th, 2004 - 12:33 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Woodstock, thank you very much for wonderful translation as always!!!

When I got THE HEART OF WOMEN via e-bay, I though this was the Anita’s will for us. I tried to get the meanings of it with a limited Chinese knowledge and a lot f guessing. Now I believe it is her will. Thank you, Woodstock.

Since I got back from Hong Kong and Japan, there were so much reading to catch up. But I was glad to be able to pay respect Anita’s 100 days ritual and visit her tablet later. I was happy to see her movies on big screen with her fans at the HKIFF although I got a cold because of air condition. I was exited when I find some of her old CDs even though they were very expensive.

The more I know about her, the more I am fond of her as a person as well as her as one of the best entertainer in the world. I like her not because she was a perfect person but because she tried to be better a person. I am relieved to know there are some people who are listening to her songs and watching her videos/DVDs/VCDs everyday like me as if it is an addiction. I though I was only one.

I understand Anita is no longer with us by my head, however, I do not feel her demise by my mind yet. I do not live in Hong Kong where you did see her on TV or in newspapers on daily base. She is reachable whenever I play CDs/videos/VCDs/DVDs. I know there will not be a new CD, movie and her live concert. I need some more time to accept the reality. But one thing will not change… Anita Mui will live in my heart forever.

Sorry, I am repeating postings in this forum.
Woodstock


IP: 218.103.196.180

Apr 27th, 2004 - 8:46 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Actually, all of you don’t have to thank me for translation all the time. Don’t have to be so “Hak Hei”. I don’t know what to say. Oh well, I think I have to thank you all, because in order to translate I have to read all the articles more carefully and understand them fully. Thus every word of Mui sinks into me, and I start to have a better understanding of her.

Through this forum, we know Mui have many genuine supporters, I feel happy for her. Also with your support and genuine interest in Anita Mui that this forum is kept in existence

Both Snoopy and I like to provide this place for you to share feelings and experiences. No matter how this forum has been used in abuse recently, we still try to keep it alive just for you, genuine Anita Mui fans and good readers. So feel free to leave your messages here, only through sharing and discussion, we can have a better insight into Mui and whatever you say might be an inspiration for other readers.

Akiko San (AT)

Welcome back! Also interesting to hear about your trip to HK and your opinion about Mui.

Your words “. I like her not because she was a perfect person but because she tried to be better a person.”. reminded me how she actually struggled through her career life, and tried to improve herself through out her entire life. She didn’t have a smooth career life, and not even a smooth personal life. There were ups and downs, and no matter how the society, her fate or CA was not treating her fairly, she never gave up, and due to her resistance, determination and stubbornness, she managed all by herself to overcome all difficulties, and remained to be Big Sister in her circle. Her place can never be replaced. We are proud of her.

I’m glad you had a fruitful trip in HK. Yep, her CD/VCD/DVD sell well all the time. Those newly released CDs including the Classic Moment Live actually already sold out in many shops already. And her old CDs very expensive, they are never on sale because there is market of them.

Actually at 100 days ritual, I think I saw you. Were you in blue or Jean skirt with white top, and you carried a camera? Your hair was combed and pinned up at the back ? You were looking around after the ritual started, then I didn’t see you around anymore. I stayed till the whole ritual finished.

You are right to think positive, because she is actually with us all the time in the form of her songs, her VCDs and DVDs. And she lives in our heart forever.

Angel:

You are always so sweet and considerate, and thanks for your offer to help. We appreciate it.

Because of Mui, I get to know many nice, interesting people, on the other hand also come across unwelcome nuisance that would otherwise never exist in my circle of life. So my patience and tolerance are put to test. Anyway, those negative karmas inflicted on me in a way will become my good karmas. True, life is short and everything is impermanent, might as well remain happy and enjoy every moment.

Dana:

Haha…….you will think I’m talking Buddhism again. I have no religion. But I believe all religions teach us to be a good person. Really no harm to study them, especially Buddhism, its teaching is about the philosophy of life. Very interesting.

I used the word “convinced”, doesn’t really mean I don’t believe Mui is already in the land of Nirvana. I remember I replied one girl as she asked if Mui is already there, I assured her Mui arrived there shortly after her demise, because if Mui can’t go there, who else is qualified to go there. But before I read the Buddhist Compassion 116, I didn’t know a person can go there right away, I always thought they had to go through different tortures according to their sins before their reincarnation. Now I know this is not the case, so I used “convinced”, I meant convinced by Buddhist Compassion that actually a person can choose to go to land of Nirvana instead of reincarnation into this life , and also can go there right away after death provided if he is really good.

Yep, in previous message, I already asked you that she looked prettier, more feminine and classy during recent 10 years. (something like that), but you didn’t answer me, but now you asked me back…….hahahahaha…………

BTW, those overseas fans who want to have a copy of the Book of Heart of Modern Women can order through Mingpao via fax....ref to the message left my Yogi.
june


IP: 61.10.7.150

Apr 27th, 2004 - 10:10 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

hello to each & everyone again....it's been so long since i last posted, again it's because i'm concentrating casting my votes....and since I'm having a hard time voting now, I decided to stay put here for awhile and concentrate reading on the messages that were posted.

First of all, I'd like to thank Dana and Woodstock for the replies they've made on my queries.

Secondly, so many words have been written here in this thread that could help us ponder and admire more of our beloved Anita, as I've said before she truly is a perfect role model for all of us, despite of all her struggles in life, she remained strong and she continuously tried her very best to improve her craft as an artist and improve herself as a person despite of her weaknesses and the weaknesses of the society she belonged.....truly an admirable person....I'm just as glad as everyone else that she's now in the LAND OF NIRVANA, WHERE THERE IS NO MORE TEARS AND SUFFERINGS

AT hello! What movie did you watched during the festival? Me? JUSTICE, MY FOOT! Though I have a VCD of it already but I still went to the theater cause it's one of my favorite movies of her !!!
And yes, you're right her CD'S are dear but it's worth all our money though, cause she truly have a wonderful and beautiful voice and all her songs are all GREAT!!!
dana


IP: 161.142.104.168

Apr 28th, 2004 - 2:25 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Blessed you,Woodstock, I am really glad you feel the same way as we do.
.. ..

Yea, now that Ive rechecked your messages, you did ask me that question. Silly me..at that time I was confused and trying hard to understand your talk about Buddhism in-conjunction with Anita. Well.. my answer is the same as my question At times she looked like a japanese. Yea..and a very exquisite one. It was known that she can speak japanese fluently, did she have any private tutoring for it?

Woodstock, do you still remember the sculptor, Cao Chong En? He had mentioned about sculpting a white marble bust of Anita which be placed at Anita's Cancer Foundation HQ in HK, is it ready and how does it look like?

Did you attend the Star Walk Ceremony? Must be a very big affair. I wonder whats the award for?

Browsing through your entire site, I notice that you still have a heavy workload. If you do need our assistance in any form, please feel free to ask, ok? We will obliged immediately.

About the book, for security reason, is it safe to order online? I havent tried buying anything online.


I knew it June, I know you would be camping at that voting site. I was lucky at one time being able to put in a couple of votes, but most time I just get the ERROR sign.


Hello! AT, I gather you are another great fan of our beloved Anita. Have you met her in person? You must have a huge collection of her CDS/VCDS/DVDS. Which are your favourites? I have my collections too and I just rewatched Better Tomorrow III yesterday, and OH! BOY!..she was so cool with those guns but when she died in CYF's arms with Sunset Melody playing in the background, I was in tears again..I think Ill continue doing it whenever it comes to this part.
AT


IP: 68.126.124.2

Apr 28th, 2004 - 2:41 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hi Woodstock,

I think you were mistaken me for my writer friend from Japan at Anita’s 100 days ritual. I went there early around 3:30 and did not stay there. I went to HMV to look for Clasic Moment Live DVD but it was a just rumor to sell it. Then, I went to Science Museum to see FROM ASHES TO ASHES and ROUGE.

June, I went to all her movies at the HKIFF including second showing of FROM ASHES TO ASHES. I, as a movie reporter, think I should see movies on big screen even though I saw them on DVDs. Sure enough, I saw a complete version of KAWASHIMA YOSHIKO. (Anita told me this was one of her favorite movies when I saw her in 2000.) My DVD does not have the epilogue which is that aged Yoshiko (Anita) appears in Shibuya, Tokyo with a monkey on her shoulder. I was surprised to see that ending and understood that now the whole movie made a sense. I had a feeling that my DVD was somehow cut off. Actually, my DVD has a blank for a few second after Yoshiko was executed. I bought back a new Deltamc version (VCD) just in case and this is the same as the one I saw. I assume it is the original version.

I have to confess that I cannot appreciate JUSTIC, MY FOOT because of the dialogues. I did not understand why dialogues were so funny. I was moved ROUGE the most among them although I saw it on DVD many times. At a theatre Leslie’s fans were so enthusiastic compare to Anita’s fans. It was somehow annoying to me so I did not go to see his movies after that.

If I can speak Chinese, I would talk to some of her fans at the festival. Too bad!
Woodstock


IP: 219.77.86.146

Apr 28th, 2004 - 8:33 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dana:

Thanks for your innovative smilies again!

She had learnt some Japanese in early days when she was a chair woman of the fan club of Sai Shing Siu Shu. Then she had worked in Japan in a TV program for a short period. Please refer to the article uploaded at our website http://archives.mui-mui.org/iweek2.htm

About the sculpture, no news about it yet?

No I didn’t go to the Star Walk Ceremony. Never attend those functions. The award is something like praising their contribution to movies, many old movie stars or directors got this award too.

My workload……… ………only thing I have to do is translation, Can you help, please!………… ………thanks anyway for your offwe. Will keep in mind.

To order online is normally safe. Maybe you wait till Yogi got her copy then you order if you have doubt about it. What do you think?

AT:

I’m sorry lar……….I didn’t know your writer friend came too……that was the only Japanese Lady I saw, so I thought that was you…… ……getting too smart
june


IP: 61.10.7.150

Apr 28th, 2004 - 10:11 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Hi Dana!!! your guess is right! Please refer to the thread of -Pls vote for Anita- for the good time to vote so as not to encounter the ERROR sign....thank you and take care

Hi AT!! Wow! An encounter with Anita?!? Hey lucky you!!!!!! Actually I like Kawashima Yoshiko and Rouge too, but when it was shown, it did not fit my sked, anyway, I got VCD's of those movies and can just view them anytime I want. Thanks for your reply and take care!!!
dana


IP: 61.6.111.64

Apr 29th, 2004 - 1:20 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Woodstock, firstly I would like to add in what I have left off in my last message. According to your views about those souls entering Land Of Nirvana, it should be after a certain period of daily self-meditation, praying and goodwill, then when the person died thus the soul be only accepted into the Land Of Nirvana. In Anita's case, she should be practising it since the day she became a True Buddhist, which should be in 1992 which means a total of 12yrs. She certaintly is qualified for it.

Haha!.. very funny, Woodstock. But it will be my pleasure to give you a helping hand if you are willing to teach me the language.

Refering to 3rd paragraph, why are you asking me the question in return? Im not a Hongkongnese and I dont live in Hongkong.

Since it is safe as you said, Ill order online.

Secondly, I, an Undergraduate student majoring in Psychology was hit by a conceited and pompous being which dropped in more than 24hrs ago.[my apology to you, Woodstock, I was following an example of...]
It was really surprising and shocking coming straight from an Anita's fan. Sad isn't it? Actually, Im in the midst of writing a Journal of Anita Mui for my assignment. Now, I have to reanalyse what sort of fans Anita really had.

I may not have step into the Professional stage yet, but to my knowledge, no matter what profession a person is in, main advantage is having a good attitude. Language is not a barrier in communicating as long as the sincererity is there. But what I read and witnessed is very disappointing coming from the same source within a day.

Anyway, lets not be too serious about the whole episode, shall we? Ill be fine, I have the very big heart of Anita: be brave, be strong, be helpful, be generous, be forgiving.

Woodstock, Im making myself scarce for now. You are truly a very nice and caring person and Im very happy to have known you. Take care. Snoopy, you too!

June, dont worry, Ill still be casting my votes for Anita. Have fun and take care!

My LOVE to ALL!.. ..
Woodstock


IP: 219.77.92.43

Apr 29th, 2004 - 8:33 AM
Re: Heart Of Modern Woman

Dana:

No, sorry I think I gave you the wrong impression. When I said I'm sure Anita already arrived at the land of Nirvana, I meant with all the good karmas she accumulated during her life, she would be there since that was her wish. But according to Buddhism, "even a great sinner, it is said, can be liberated at the moment of death if a realized and powerful master transfers the person's consciousness into a Buddha realm....if he or she has truly asked, from the heart, for purification."

With continuous spiritual practices during life of course helps, but there are practices of dying, that will help a person at deathbed to die. If you don't mind, can I elaborate on this part tomorrow? as I have to consolidate some readings to see how to put into a concise paragraph for you. Then we all can understand more in detail apart from what we have been told by the Buddhist compassion, or what was done to Anita, or actually what state Mui was in, at the moment of death. Also did her daily meditation help her?

About the 3rd paragraph, no it should be an affirmative statement, not a question. It should be a full stop…..hahaha

About your [secondly….] , why suddenly you said “my apology to you, Woodstock, I was following an example of...” I don’t understand what you meant, very confused. You meant you encountered a very rude fan of Anita Mui, you have to see him/her because of your assignment on a journal of Anita Mui?

If so, please don’t feel too bad. Don’t forget Anita Mui has a very wide range of fans, of different age group and with different background, both in term of social or educational. There are all kinds of people, with different mentality from yours. Fortunately you don’t understand Chinese, otherwise if you read all those arguments in the Chinese forum, some of them will really shock you. This is one of the reasons why there is no unity among Anita’s fans.

Yep, don’t be too serious. Just love Anita in your own way, and try to live a better life.

Okay, if you will be busy with your study, then concentrate more in that. But we will miss you for sure. Your take care and all the best to you!

BTW, if you don’t drop by anymore, then I won’t have to work on that “lecture” on “at the moment of death” anymore, right?
Angel


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Apr 29th, 2004 - 4:07 PM
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Dear Dana, I'm getting a bit confused, are you going to leave this forum ??? I thought you don't have time at the period of Father's day but after reading the message from Jason and Woodstock, I really want to ask you this question, I really hope I can see you again !
june


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 12:29 AM
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Dana hi and good day to you!!!! Same with Angel, I'm also confused......I hope you won't be leaving permanently.....go on with your studies, do good with it, but please drop us a line or two every now and then.........take care!!!!!!
dana


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 4:42 AM
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Woodstock, you are evil[just kidding] Must you add in that?..[BTW...at the bottom of your message] Yea..you had me running back for more. Alright! Im all ears!


Im fine. It was a very disappointing experience for me but nothing serious and Im not too upset about it, Woodstock. Subject closed, ok? And Ill be having my exams soon.

When I rewatched the 1986 segment of her concert, why did she mentioned that the public wasnt favourable of her but gradually get to accept her?


Hello! Angel, Are you feeling better? You wanted to see me? Can I help you in anyway? Do you know that you have a talent in writing poems. For me, I think Ill just dropped dead. I just cant imagine myself having to rack my brain to start the first sentence.


Hi! June, Im fine..Thank you! I might be having exam nerves, thats all. Bet you are the happiest person at this moment..just look at those scores of Anita, soaring higher and higher.
Jason


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 4:53 AM
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My relief, Dana is back!!! I'm and .
dana


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 5:02 AM
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Jason,
Angel


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 6:55 AM
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Dear Dana, I'm very happy to see you again ! Even I haven't say anything to you but I really like to read the communication between you and Woodstock here at this topic. I have learned a lot even I didn't say anything in between, every time I need to concentrate a lot about your question and the answer from Woodstock. You already helped me a lot and actually I need to thank you about it ! And thanks to show up again ! I will miss your very "lecture" questions and miss very "lecture" answers from Woodstock if you leave us...
Thanks a lot for your concern and compliment, you really make me feel "shy", this was the first time that I wrote a poem that at the beginning not the meaning was for being a poem, but it is really what I feel, what I want to tell Mui Jei...
By the way, I didn't collect all the languages for "I love you", my first language is Dutch, at school I need to learn French as second language.
I need to concentrate again on the vote, I need to keep up supporting Mui Jei !
Woodstock


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 7:04 AM
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Dana:

So you are back?....you can't do without us,eh? ....But I don't have any "lecture" ready for you, because I didn't expect you to return so soon

Actually I was sort of feeling so relieved because I thought I never have to preach anymore, and no one will press me for any past interviews again.

At her first concert, she mentioned that she was gradually accepted by the people, because the fact was that not long aftershe won the contest, she was not really accepted by the people and the media, they said she was drug addict, her arms were full of needle holes and tattos, that's why she never wore short sleeves. I think this is because of her background.

Once she was even badly humiliated by a few hooligans in the busy streets of Tsimshatsui one Christmas night, when she walked with her friends from one hotel to the car park of another hotel after her performance. They sneared at her, and called her drug addict. But she managed to hold back her tears and temper, because she knew if she argued with them in the street, next day there would be whole coverage on the newspaper, and that would be the end of her career. So she just swallowed the humiliation but decided to prove to the whole world how good Anita Mui was.

See, she is really good! 1985 concert is one of my favourite.

See you tomorrow!
june


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Apr 30th, 2004 - 11:40 AM
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Dana hello!!!!!! I'm so happy to read something from you.........that means you are taking back your words because Woodstock trapped you !!!!!!!! Woodstock you are just so good and very unpredictable.....HO-YE, HO-YE!!!!!!!!! .....I'm not the only person who's happy with the way things are turning in the voting site......it's all about TEAMWORK..... I just hope that all of the fans and admirers of ANITA will be united, no need to quarrel la! Let LOVE, PEACE & JOY & UNITY PREVAIL TO MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD!